Back to the Honeyhole Again

Its nice to have a presumed honeyhole in your back pocket, as this month, while there have been quite a few silvers, has seemed slow, and a proven honeyhole is a nice slump breaker and morale booster.

But the site gave up only two dimes, which certainly isn’t bad; we’ll take ’em, but all things must pass.

Gets me thinking about the non-sustainability of this hobby again.  With hunting and fishing, it always regenerates.  People are always planting letterboxes.  Even orienteering people are always setting new courses (but rarely coming up with new, interesting venues, and letting quality decline while charging more for the lessened experience).

But silvers don’t regenerate.  Hunted to extinction is hunted to extinction.  Will bigger, deeper machines come along and save the day?  Won’t help much in this area, as mineralization and bedrock limit the effective depth coins can be found. Does the “freeze/thaw” cycle push coins around as some claim?  I don’t think so; sounds pretty wacky, but even so, there can’t be a huge source of sustainability from that.  Feeling a bit sad about it today.

(Also yesterday pulled a dime from an urban site that I never thought had much potential, but wanted to check it out. Looks like someone beat me to the site by a day; saw their plugs everywhere.  Wonder what they found?).

Silver From My Newbie Site

I’ve found nearly 700 silvers, most in the past couple of years, but only 5 from this huge, old site that should have more.  Its also the site where I found my second ever silver, back in 2008.  I spent alot of time here as a newbie.

For some reason, I never spend much time here since (prolly cause I ain’t got much silver from it), sort of written off, but I’ve never been there with the skill level I have now, so back I went today to see if I could turn this into a honeyhole.

It went well, as pulled 3 dimes, but I was working the very edge of the site, and in heavy trash.  The targets were actually few and far between.  I’ll definitely have to work this site more, but there is no urgency; I’ve let it sit since 2008 after all, with the occasional random visit and the occasional random silver.

Recent Hunts

Have been swamped lately, but have been getting out a bit.  Nothing interesting to write about, just 4 silver dimes (only two pictured), an abused IH, and a religious pendant over 4 hunts, which includes a skunked day.  Like everyone, I have my share of skunked days; I just don’t like logging them. (I did tho, last year, have a streak of 52 hunts with at least one silver coin — I’ll never forget that, and its nice to think about it when things are slow and don’t seem sustainable).

Trying to revive life into sites I had written off under inferior conditions, an inferior machine, and inferior talent isn’t going as well as I had hoped, but I still think the exercise is valuable.  It is giving me a really good sense of how to analyze sites and make the best of my time.

Thinking About Grass and Written Off Sites

One thing my honeyhole of last week, and grassy site of this week got me thinking about, is hit some sites now that were written off, while the ground is wet, the grass is as short as it will ever be, and before the snow hits (which hasn’t really, yet this winter).  As much as I’d like to get back to my honeyhole, it seems safe, as it is a bit out of the box, and it certainly seems no one has hit it in the past two years.

I’ll take my chances now on hitting other sites I had given up on with the V3, while the detecting conditions are ideal. This intel will be valuable while I can get it; if I wait ’til summer, I may give up on them again.

To that end, today I hit a site I had written off with the V3, and pulled a pair of deep silver dimes (no pics today).  This site is no honeyhole; the targets are few and far between, but there is no doubt more silver there for the patient. Its huge, and has been logged for future reference.

Yearly Silver Goal Reached

My yearly silver goal is 30 for the year, and I reached that today, at yesterday’s grassy site.  Another long hunt pulled just one silver, but it was a 1924 SLQ.  These are so fun to find, especially when they have a date (which is barely readable in this case).

The site also surrendered a silver spoon, which was quite twisted when it came out of the ground.  This is the way you usually seem them posted, which makes the one I found last month so special.

While this site has surrendered a walker and an SLQ, it took many, many hours to get those 2 silvers.  This site needs to be tabled until I get an even better opportunity, with freshly-mowed grass, if that ever happens.

Maybe I should talk to the powers that be.  Hey, can you mow that grass down real low, just for me?  We haven’t had much snow this winter; if we get some real snow, maybe it will get matted down more.

Opportunity Big Silver

This was a site I had known about for a long while and had been dying to hit, but the grass was always very tall, giving no real opportunity to detect it.  This being winter tho, it didn’t seem so bad today, so I gave it a try.

It was tough working around tufts of grass, but I did manage one silver coin, and it was a big one, a walker, which appears to have been abused by a lawnmower or some other machine (ironically, as they don’t seem to mow this site now).  This is my fourth silver half dollar of the calendar year.

I imagine there might be smaller silver here, but difficult to reach due to the grass.  I also imagine it has been hunted pretty hard; the walker, as they usually are, was at the edge of the site, and there wasn’t too much in the middle, tho it is hard to guess how much use the site got back in the day.

Maryland Silver

Had some business in Maryland today, and decided to make a day of it, and check out a few sites I had researched that would be on the way.  All were duds; either failed to get permission, the evil fill and grade twins had been there, you get the drill, you can just tell when a site is a dud.

Then decided to press on and hit a site I knew about in Maryland, but had never hit before, and right off the bat, got two dimes within 15 minutes of each other.  Was sort of an out of the box site, so I thought I had a good shot at a monster site, but nothing after the dimes except an occasional wheatie.

How can you get two dimes within ten feet of parking, and 15 minutes of each other, and then nothing for three hours?  Oh well, I will try the site again sometime.

Back to the Honeyhole

I don’t know if I’m ready to call this site a honeyhole yet, but it is certainly feeling that way.  Pulled 5 more silver coins from it today, for a total of 12 in the last three hunts.  Most were what I would call “E-Trac silvers”, deep, in the trash, or both.

Barber Half + Dime Trifecta

Met up with an acquaintance who wanted my killer E-Trac program (which I gave him), for some door knocking.  We were 0 for 3 on the door knocking (I wonder about these folks who claim an 80% success rate; I certainly don’t doubt those claims — I guess it means I should have gone to finishing school or something (I certainly dress well, try to look well-groomed, and all that stuff)).

Anyway, we decided to hit a site that we’ve both pounded in the past, but I told him that I’d pulled alot of barbers out of there with the E-Trac, so lets see if there’s one more.  We both did pull a barber dime, and he pulled a silver quarter and some bling as well. I also pulled a pair of IH’s.

He had to go, and I decided to do the same, but there was still some daylight left, and I passed by a site on the way home that I had hit with a V3 a couple of years ago, and came up totally empty, so I had written it off then.

Good thing I decided to give the E-Trac a go at this site, as I pulled a 1894S barber half, and a couple of dimes to complete the dime trifecta.

This is my oldest barber half, and my third in less than twelve months, all on public property.  This one is certainly one of my best coin finds ever.

This site is now “opened up”; we’ll see what the E-Trac can do here that the V3 couldn’t. (In all fairness, while I think the E-Trac is in a different league than the V3 when it comes to silver (having tested both side by side on the same targets), the V3 came up empty here when the ground was drier, and the grass was taller, so not a fair comparison).

York County Private Yard Hunt

Got an invite from a friend out in York County to hunt some private property.  That’s a long drive for me, but I’m always up for new places.

Before heading out, I did some research on an old town near the meet up site, which happened to have an old park, so I got out really early to hit that site.  Site was pretty dead, surrendering just one crusty wheat penny, but the town looked like it had other potential.

Onto the first site, which didn’t seem to have a ton of promise, but a fellow detectorist pulled a barber quarter out of some roadside gravel.

The second site was a private yard of an old home, which the owner said had been hit pretty well before, but I managed to find a few silver objects — a silver Canadian dime dated 1920, and a broach and pendant.

Pulled quite a few wheaties; I usually pull one silver coin for every 2.5 wheaties, so I was prolly owed another dime or two, but we take what the dirt is gracious enough to give us, and it was quite a fun hunt in any case.

Guys, if you want to come to Chester County, anytime.

Big Silver from the Private Yard

Another hunt at this nice woman’s house, and I managed to pull a walker and a quarter today. In one of our conversations, she had told me that her late husband used to own a metal detector.  Good thing for me that he missed that walker, tho in all fairness, she said he mostly used his MD on the beach.

I’m gonna start doing some of the pics with dirt on them ’cause there’s this asshole on one of the forums who likes to doubt my finds and otherwise get it my face for no reason.  I don’t even know this ‘hole or what is problem is, never met him.  Oh well, there’s always people like that out there.

I’m an economist, so I look at things from the point of view of incentives.  What incentive to I have to make this stuff up and go thru all this trouble?  It is a ton of work.  My guess is that he just has silver envy (and prolly other envy as well).

Well, I doubt he (or much of anyone), read this blog, so it doesn’t much matter, but I kinda like them with the dirt on, so we’ll see going forward.

Private Yard Hunt

Finally got to hunt the property of the woman I met the other day.  I had quite a good day, pulling a pair of silver dimes and a beautiful antique sterling thimble.  The beat merc is a 1916S (missed it by that much, tho if it were a D, I’d feel snakebit that it was so abused).

I offered the thimble to the owner, but she could not have cared less about it.  This becomes another one of my favorite silver relics.

Better than a Trifecta

Back to the site that surrendered a beautiful silver spoon yesterday, to the same trashy section of it.

I didn’t hold out much hope, as the site seemed pretty hunted out, and the spoon was likely ignored by many as trash, but I was fortunate enough to pull three silver coins out of the trash, a 1926 merc, a 1907O barber dime, and a barely legal silver quarter.  Had the quarter been a rosie, it would have been a trifecta, something I rarely get.  I also pulled a 5 gram sterling ring (not pictured).  All of the silvers were quite difficult, and I was thrilled to have sniffed them out.

But the best part of the hunt was meeting an old lady who came up to chat with me. One of my favorite parts of this hobby is interacting with the locals.

We talked about what I find and was finding, and we talked about the silver spoon.  Turns out she knew “Regina 07”, who grew up on the same  block as her.  How cool is that?  When you find a relic, its cool to think about the people who once owned it, even cooler to meet someone who knew them, and knew where they lived.  I inquired about returning the spoon to the family, but she said there was no surviving family left.

I also inquired about permission to hunt her property, which dates to the 1800s.  Sure, no problem.  An adventure for a future day.

Can you believe this January weather?

Silver Spoon

After finishing off my recent site, I was starting to get stressed out about finding new sites (and the unsustainability of this hobby will likely be a recurring theme of this blog).  But, I came up with a piece of public property that seemed completely out of the box, and decided to hit it.

The site was pretty dead, just an abused wheatie, and not much clad, which tells me it has been hit hard.  In these cases, I go for the trashiest section I can find, and hope to get stuff from the areas others were afraid to hit.

I got what I thought was a piece of trash, but when I pulled it out and cleaned the dirt off, I discovered it was an absolutely beautiful antique sterling silver spoon.  It is engraved “Regina 07” on the handle, and aside from one dimple in the bowl, it is in perfect condition.

This is one of my best relic finds (really one of my best finds ever), and the best silver spoon (or maybe even silver relic) I’ve seen posted on any of the forums (tho I’ve only been reading them since 2008).  [EDIT: I’ll admit I was very disappointed when American Detectorist (the forum where I am most active, and where I am a moderator), didn’t even post it on their banner.  I guess I have a higher opinion of it than others.    Oh well, I still like it, was thrilled to find it, and am proud of it].

Hunt Saving Quarter

Back to the site I hit on 1/10 to finish it up.  There was a decent section of promising terrain that I had not yet hit, which I figured would yield a few silvers.

But it was not to be, hour after hour of frustration lead to to not much.  It was literally the last section of the last rank of the grid, right on the edge of the site, that lead to a silver quarter, and only at one inch.  It had “that sound”, so I knew it was a silver, but surprising after hours of nothing to get a silver at 1 inch.  Just proves you have to hit the edge of sites.  (Although the site is private property, it is obvious this section had been hit before, unlike the section that yielded a double digit day).

Well, this was the farewell hunt at this site; I will remember it fondly.

Draped Bust Large Cent

Drove by an old-looking site that was being demolished to make way for some condos.  I asked the workers if they minded if I swung my detector around so long as I stayed out of the way — sure, no problem.

Hit wheatie after wheatie, but no silver.  Where was the silver?  Was getting frustrated, then decided to hit a pile of dirt that had been excavated, and got a clad quarter signal at one inch, but it turned out to be a 1798 draped bust large cent instead!  I wasn’t sure about it at first; I figured it was a junk token til I got it home and cleaned the dirt off of it.  From the looks of the excavation, it may have been a good foot or deeper before being excavated.

As it turned out, the site looked old, but it dated from the late 60s, which explains the wheats without the silver (the copper was obviously from prior use).  Better to be lucky than good, but when you get a good-looking drive by opportunity, you take it and ask questions later.

Silver Dimes Today

Went back to a site that had been very good to me, in fact, it is one of my double digit sites, that is, a site that gave up 10 or more silvers in one hunt.  This site is on private property (for which I have permission to hunt, of course).

But the site was rather stingy, giving up just two dimes.  Not bad, of course, but this was a section of the site that I’d never hunted, and I hoped it would put out as the rest of the site had.  Silver coins are hard to find, tho, so we’ll certainly take it.

Big Silver With My Wife

First hunt of the year.  Amazing that it is possible to hunt around here this time of year.  I decided to hit the site where I found my 500th silver of the year last year.  How can you not?

This site will always hold a special place in my mind, as, last year when I was at about 450, very near the end of the year, and thinking about the impossible task of getting to 500, I was trying to budget out which sites would deliver the goods.  This site was an unknown, as it has been hunted hard, but occasional silver is there for the patient.  Problem is, when you are trying to reach a goal in this game by a certain time, patience is tough.  But, when I headed out to the site, at 499 that morning, I hit a beautiful sweet silver sound in the first 5 minutes of detecting.  It is a magical moment that I will never forget, and so, the site will always be a shrine for me.

Anyway, it was 62 degrees and sunny here in Chester County on Jan 7th, and my wife decided to tag along to my shrine.  I warned here that the good targets would be few and far between.

About a half hour in, I hit a big silver sound, which is almost always a canslaw or pipe fitting, and I told my wife that, but it turned out to be a walker.  First silver of the year was a walker, how sweet is that!  It was only 3 inches deep, but in a very out of the box section of the site.

Later, hit sweet sound of silver signal, and I said to my wife, that’s a silver dime, and sure enough, it was worn ’17 merc.  Nice way to start the year.

My New Blog

I’ve decided to start yet another blog.  This one will mostly feature my metal detecting finds, but will occasionally wander into just about anything, especially when the finds are running thin.

Last year I found 516 silver coins metal detecting.  For those who don’t follow the hobby, that’s alot — in my mind, 30 silvers is a good year.  Too bad I wasn’t blogging last year, tho I hope to someday write some articles about that amazing year.  For now, lets hope I get to 30 between now and the end of the year.  We’ll see.

[Note: if you continue reading this archive below this entry, you will see the entries for the Best Finds and Double Digit Days blog categories.  This is just a trick to make it really easy for me to leverage the blog software into multiple blogs quickly and without a hassle, cause I ain’t likin’ hassles, who is?]

#1 – 1800 Half Dime (VF 20)

This is truly a find of a lifetime for me. Found at just 4 inches in modern park, and it sounded just like a modern penny (VDI +53).

Had it graded by a pro at VF-20, which, undamaged, would list at about $2500. (I did a little damage and there is other damage from 200 years in the ground). It is still a pretty coin, and I am quite happy with what I was offered for it.

Found: 07-Jun-2010; Location: park/school; Machine: V3

#2 – 1823 Bust Half (XF/AU)

Pulled this out of the corner of a huge a field connected with an old school.  The area around the school dudded, but the fields showed some promise, including this gem.

I rarely find old coins in excellent shape, but this is a beauty.

It will take me a lifetime to cover the rest of this site, as this beauty was found on the first day I was there, but hopefully there will be more like this.

Here is the original blog entry.

Found: 06-Apr-2021; Location: park/school; Machine: E-Trac.

#3 – 1830 Bust Half (VF 30ish)

Another find of a lifetime.  I’m fortunate enough to have had 2.  Just a random spot in a random field, sometimes better to be lucky than good.  I like hunting fields for a change, but most of the time you get occasional reales and coppers, after hours and hours of patience.  This was a nice treat.  Came in bouncing between 01-42 and 22-something on the E-Trac, about 8 inches.  Saw the eagle first, thought it might be a walker, then turned it over and was shocked to see the bust.  I was jacked.  Here is the original blog entry.

As for ranking it #2 on this list, tough call, but a good problem to have I, guess.  It is a stunning coin, and should be #1, maybe.  OTOH, the draped bust half dime is also beautiful, much rarer, and worth considerably more.  Even tho it is a smaller bust silver, it is a type older, and I’ve never ever seen one posted on an MD forum, so I think it is a harder find as well.  So, that’s that, tough decision.

Found: 19-Nov-2013; Location: field; Machine: E-Trac.

#4 – 1842 Seated Half (XF 40)

XF 40 I guess is a little generous on this baby, given the tarnish, but a seated half is still a pretty rare find (at least for me), and its an old one, 1842.  Hard to believe this was found at 7 inches in a public park.  Sometimes it pays to be in the right place at the right time.

Odd thing was, I was pretty confident the place had been hunted out — 2 or 3 hours of not even much clad, then I got a wheatie, and started focusing on that zone, then a rosie, and then this.  I remember when I first saw it, I thought it was some sort of token — it took quite a few seconds to realise what it was, then do the happy dance.

Found: 19-Jun-2011; Location: park/school; Machine: E-Trac

#5 – 1876 CC Quarter

The only CC mint coin I have ever found.  This was at a site that goes back to the 50s, and had given up plenty of modern silver, including a walker, but nothing really old.  It was a frustrating day, digging deep clad quarter after deep clad quarter, then this gem popped out, pretty much at the same depth as all the clad.  Was near an old one room school house adjacent to the site. Here is the original blog entry.

Found: 13-Aug-2019; Location: park/school; Machine: E-Trac

#6 – 1853 Three Cent Piece (F12)

This (at the time) was the third oldest American silver coin I have found (4th oldest now), an 1853 three cent piece, or “trime”. Its in pretty good shape, save for a little corrosion. This was at an old house with tons of iron, and it was not a very good signal; CO 33 or so on the E-Trac after an iron null. Not a signal I would dig too often at a park or school, but I was glad I did. 4-5 inches deep.

Found: 25-Sep-2010; Location: private yard; Machine: E-Trac

#8 – 1854 Seated Dime (VF 20)

It was 102 degrees, and the dirt was cement hard. I did not have a pinpointer. Machine said it was about 8 inches deep, and I dug and dug and dug for 20 minutes in that heat. No dice.

I finally figured out that the coin must be on its side, and sure enough, got a similar reading on the far side off one side of the top of the hole. Cut another plug there, and saw the silver poking out. I said, literally and out loud, “this better be an f’ing seated for all this work”, and I couldn’t believe it when it was. It was only 2 inches deep. And its in nice shape as well.

Found: 06-Jul-2010; Location: park/school; Machine: E-Trac

#9 – 1794 4 Reale

This coin isn’t in the best shape, but 4 reale coins are an extremely rare find.  Moreover, this coin is counterstamped with by the Bank of England with a King George III stamp.  It was minted in Madrid, got stamped in England, then ended up in a Chester County field.

This isn’t the oldest Spanish silver I have found, but it is the rarest.  I now have the half reale the 1 reale, the 2 reale, and 4 reale Spanish coins.  Just need the 8 reale.

The short story of the find is in the original blog entry.

Found: 30-Mar-2021; Location: field; Machine: E-Trac.

#10 – Twin Seateds

I love finding seateds.  Finding 2 in one day is special.  This is the only time I have ever found 2 in one day.  These were found in a field I called the “Field of Dreams” which also gave up a seated half, a half reale, and handful of coppers, a V nickel, and some other stray goodies.  Here is the original blog entry.

Found: 28-Mar-2014; Location: field; Machine: E-Trac

#11 – 1793 Chain Cent

What a treasure.  I have always dreamed of finding a chain cent.  They are incredibly rare, but this one is incredibly abused.  It took a ton of work to get a pic to prove that it was a chain cent.  Only a handful have ever been posted on find forums, and this was nominated for a banner find (not selected), so I have no idea how to rank it on my finds list.  It was cool to find, but coppers in our acidic soil never come out good.  Here is the original blog entry.

Found: 12-Sep-2019; Location: old farmhouse; Machine: E-Trac.

#13 – 1857 Seated Quarter (G4)

Its a bit worn, but we’ll take it.  Seated quarters can be hard to find, and this is the only one I’ve ever found.  It was a difficult dig, at 4 inches, but on its side in a trashy area.  This site had never even given up barber silver, just mercs and rosies for the most part (tho it had given up a few coppers), so it was quite a surprise.

Found: 15-Jul-2011; Location: park/school; Machine: E-Trac

#15 – 1807 Spanish 2 Reale

This is the second Spanish 2 Reale I’ve dug this year, and by far the best.  It is a bit tarnished, but otherwise, there is plenty of detail, and no holes or other abuse, which have plagued my previous Spanish silvers.

This was found in a huge, wide open field on private property.  A one in a million shot, except I also found a barber half in the same field on the same day.  Unbelievable day.

Found: 31-Jul-2012; Location: field; Machine: E-Trac

#16 – 1907 Sterling Silver Spoon

This is such a beautiful silver relic, only one imperfection in the bowl.  It is monogrammed “Regina” on the front, and “07” on the back of the handle.  I’ve found a few silver spoons (and parts), but have never seen a dug one that looked this nice.

I even met an old woman who knew of and lived a couple houses down from the little girl this was made for.  How cool is that. (Unfortunately, there were no surviving members of the family, so I could not return this heirloom).

Found: 18-Jan-2012; Location: park/school; Machine: E-Trac

#17 – 1700s Pewter Cup

I’m not much of a relic hunter, but I think this one is really cool. As near as I can tell it is a 1700’s pewter cup. The unfortunate thing is that it doesn’t have a bottom. I believe it had a glass bottom at one point.

This was my second or third hunt ever — I had absolutely no clue what I was doing. It was just under the surface, and rang up like a nickel on the Ace 250.

Found: 19-Jul-2008; Location: woods/ruins; Machine: Ace 250

#19 – 1755 Spanish Reale

This is the oldest silver coin I’ve ever found, a 1755 Spanish reale. The coin is in pretty good shape, except for the hole. It is a Fernando VI. Was only 4 inches, rang like a silver dime.

I remember the day, I was with a hunting buddy, and I was trying to find my 50th silver of the year at a site that had been generous to both of us in the past.  But we were both being skunked — he decided to leave, I decided to take one more swing thru the field, and good thing I did.  This is the last silver I ever found at that site, despite a couple of repeat trips.

Found: 04-Sep-2010; Location: field; Machine: E-Trac

#20 – Silver Ring (19th century)

This old silver ring is only worth about a buck or two, but I think it is really cool. Who wore it? Was it a wedding band, or did it have any other personal significance? Are the initials an organization, or a person’s name? Is the family still in the county? It will be cool to figure this out someday.

I don’t really know how old it is, but it was found in the same field as a button I dated to the late 1800s, and a 1801 Spanish silver. Found at a good 8 inches, and rang nicely as deep silver on the V3. It was fun digging it out, like I was unearthing “my precious”.

Found: 23-Mar-2010; Location: field; Machine: V3

#22 – 1822 Mexican Half Reale

I generally would not rate foreign silver so high, but it is more like Spanish silver: its old, and circulated in the US like a half dime. It was worth about 6 cents, and Mexican half reales are the reason they did not make half dimes from about 1808 thru 1829 (had it been a US half dime from that era, it would be up near #1, as my other is). Its also in half decent shape as these things go (no hole, readable date).  Here is the original blog entry

Found: 29-Oct-2012; Location: field; Machine: E-Trac.

#23 – 1924 SLQ (F12)

This is the most beautiful SLQ I’ve ever found, and its only one of 2 pre 1925 that I’ve found with a date.  They are very difficult to find with dates, at least for me. This is an absolutely beautiful silver coin that the scan doesn’t do justice to. SLQs are the most beautiful US silver coin IMHO. Was at about 8 inches, solid signal.

Found: 06-Aug-2010; Location: park/school; Machine: E-Trac

#24 – 1894-S Barber Half (G4)

This is the third barber half I’ve found (at the time of writing), in the span of less than a year (so I guess they are more common than I thought), but it is the only one from the 1800s that I’ve found.  1800s silver is special; 1800s big silver is extra special.

It was about 6-7 inches deep, right on the edge of a field.  I thought it was going to be a silver quarter when it rang up.

(And yes, I’ll always feels snubbed that this coin didn’t make the American Detectorist banner (and I would come to feel more of that), especially considering some of the coins that did.  Well, it is what it is, I guess these things shouldn’t matter so much, and they really don’t, at least not to me, but I do need to mention this, and move on).

Found: 31-Jan-2012; Location: field; Machine: E-Trac